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« Reply #420 on Aug 31, 2008, 10:49pm » | |
To anyone saying Feeder are being 'safe' on this album is talking rubbish. This is their most radio unfriendly release since "Polythene".
Safe to me is a certain overrated band called Coldgate. (I call them that because Colgate gets rid of decay, and Coldplay are that- they're decay).
This album has not recieved the sucsess it deserves, nobody is to blame except for radio 1 etc. I love to know why all of a sudden they have ignored the band so much lately. If it continues this way for the next album, do the Ash route.
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« Reply #421 on Aug 31, 2008, 10:51pm » | |
Aye, ticket prices are ridiculous. For Manchester when it was £15 in May (ish) my casual Feeder fan friends were well up for it and going again, but now its £25+ they're not so keen for this tour. 
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« Reply #422 on Aug 31, 2008, 11:07pm » | |
Aug 31, 2008, 8:38pm, Ben wrote:| The last I saw (I could be wrong now though) was that Lincoln and Soton were the only dates to sell out, when normally they sell out pretty quickly. I'm aware that more dates = more choice = less people at each gig (logically speaking), but I would honestly have thought they'd be sold out by now |
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But that's when Feeder are doing a 10 date tour. They're doing 3 times as many this time, meaning people will go to different venues closer to them.
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« Reply #423 on Sept 1, 2008, 7:22am » | |
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« Reply #424 on Sept 1, 2008, 8:52am » | |
Aug 31, 2008, 11:07pm, Remove Tomorrow wrote:
Aug 31, 2008, 8:38pm, Ben wrote:| The last I saw (I could be wrong now though) was that Lincoln and Soton were the only dates to sell out, when normally they sell out pretty quickly. I'm aware that more dates = more choice = less people at each gig (logically speaking), but I would honestly have thought they'd be sold out by now |
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But that's when Feeder are doing a 10 date tour. They're doing 3 times as many this time, meaning people will go to different venues closer to them. |
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That's what I was getting at 
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« Reply #425 on Sept 1, 2008, 9:26am » | |
Aug 31, 2008, 10:51pm, Lord Lukas III wrote:| Aye, ticket prices are ridiculous. For Manchester when it was £15 in May (ish) my casual Feeder fan friends were well up for it and going again, but now its £25+ they're not so keen for this tour. |
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two different concepts for those tours though .... the small venues tour was just that, small venues, cheap tickets etc etc.
A one off project to please the fans, giving them the chance to see the band in a small venue for a small price.
In all honesty, if you don't use ticketmaster / see tickets etc then the prices aren't too bad - although obviously for people without an income I can understand.
Largely, we've bought from the venue and probs saved £40 on fees/postage as a result over the 8 tickets (2 tickets @ 4 diff venues). If others are too lazy to do that then they only have themselves to blame and can't really whinge at the prices.
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« Reply #426 on Sept 1, 2008, 9:40am » | |
Sept 1, 2008, 9:26am, Big Pete wrote:
Largely, we've bought from the venue and probs saved £40 on fees/postage as a result over the 8 tickets (2 tickets @ 4 diff venues). If others are too lazy to do that then they only have themselves to blame and can't really whinge at the prices. |
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i accept the buying from venue point Pete, but thats not always possible... it's not 'cos i'm lazy that i didn't do that! just for example, i'm doing rock city 'cos i can combine it with visiting parents but i can't get to box office in person to get the ticket. they don't take bookings over the telephone, and although you can book online from their website, it doesn't save you anything in fees *shrug*
i know ticket pricing etc is nowt to do with feeder, ticket agencies in general are just a pain in the arse. in a way i think i wouldn't mind so much if the extra money was going to the band... its the fact the agencies skim so much extra off the top that annoys me. the extra £8 or whatever it was that seetickets got per ticket from the warchild shows still pisses me off.
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« Reply #427 on Sept 1, 2008, 9:42am » | |
i was referring to people who are local ... or where venues actually allow you to call their box office!
But yes, ticket agency fees are extortionate ... I'd dearly like there to be some legislation on it, because right now, they are a licence to print money and it's taking cash out of the record industry and bands, because neither see any of the money that the agencies make *and* it's putting people off from buying in the first place!
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« Reply #428 on Sept 1, 2008, 9:50am » | |
The Engine Shed doesn't really have a box office as such... As far as I'm aware they do everything through ticketline (who to be fair to them, aren't as bad as some websites when it comes to fees)...
I do agree there needs to be some legislation on things though...
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« Reply #429 on Sept 1, 2008, 10:01am » | |
for a start there should be a booking fee per order rather than per ticket.
i don't hold my hopes up for any legislation soon though wasn't there a government report recently on ticket selling, specifically regarding ticket touting which basically said "oo yes ticket touting is bad. very bad, the public get ripped off a lot. this particularly happens with music/gig/concert tickets. but we can't be arsed to do anything about that, we're going to concentrate on making sure wimbledon doesn't suffer from ticket touting instead..."
cos, you know, i'm often confronted with touts asking me if i want to buy or sell tennis tickets 
*edit* i know touting and fees are different issues, but my point in general is no-one wants to do very much to sort out the ticket selling industry/process at the moment
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« Reply #430 on Sept 1, 2008, 10:08am » | |
Sept 1, 2008, 8:52am, Ben wrote:
That's what I was getting at |
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Apologies, I seemed to skip the middle bit when I read it. Weird.
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« Reply #431 on Sept 1, 2008, 11:07am » | |
Sept 1, 2008, 10:01am, Chloe wrote:| for a start there should be a booking fee per order rather than per ticket. |
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definitely!
They also need to outlaw fees as a percentage of the face value of the ticket. There's no way it costs more to process a £50 ticket than it does a £10 ticket, and yet, with say a 10% fee calculation, the fees would be £5 versus £1 !!!
I nearly made a facebook group about this a while back ... but couldn't think of a snappy title so put it on pause.
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« Reply #432 on Sept 1, 2008, 11:53am » | |
Foo Fighters did this same thing with their last single, and that failed to chart also.
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« Reply #433 on Sept 1, 2008, 12:06pm » | |
out of interest did it get any airplay? i don't listen to radio these days.
last delays single was 2 vinyl and cd, plus downloads... most of the hardcore bought both to get the bsides as mp3s.... and it failed to make the top 200. same lack of airplay and not much promotion.
from memory the last idlewild and supergrass singles also failed to chart - and its not like they're bands without a hardcore who'd go out and buy it either.
download rules have screwed the singles charts imo - little chance of getting in there unless you get airplay
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« Reply #434 on Sept 1, 2008, 12:17pm » | |
I never even heard it the once , it was physically released in many countries but not in the UK due to the chart placing of "Long Road To Ruin", so it was download only. The download single was "Cheer Up Boys (Your Make Up is Running)", I never seen it in the top 200.
It's really bad how downloads have screwed the charts up, Feeder have never really been a massive airplay band (they only have had 3 top 20 entries in the airplay chart, with two of those making number ten), and because of this they have never been a downloads band .
The idea of airplay and downloads I believe is someone listens to the radio, they think "I like that!" and download it. Feeder never have had that advantage and only relied on physical sales to get a position, but if you don't get a good downloads tally you won't chart high.
It's screwed the singles chart up to a point where it is now meaningless. The Automatic's "Steve McQueen" has so far charted 16-17, but the album only entered at number 44 this week. Also The Feelings last two singles have gone in at 57 and 67, but the album still continues to chart.
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