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Post by James the BLF on Dec 19, 2009 14:15:31 GMT
Ahhh this is all qquite funny - I downloaded RATM today anyway! Probably about the first time in my life I've actually paid attention to the race for Xmas number one
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Post by Ben on Dec 19, 2009 17:44:28 GMT
If anyone's still unsure and quite likes RATM... They've said they're going to play a free show in the UK if they make it to no1... Only a few hours left, would be amazing if they did it...
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Post by Wick #FeederROCKS on Dec 20, 2009 3:24:09 GMT
it'd be so much better if people bought this instead I'm so going to buy this one! I've been meaning to get that actually Ahhh this is all qquite funny - I downloaded RATM today anyway! Probably about the first time in my life I've actually paid attention to the race for Xmas number one Haha! Likewise! It's an awesome race! If anyone's still unsure and quite likes RATM... They've said they're going to play a free show in the UK if they make it to no1... Only a few hours left, would be amazing if they did it... I hope RAtM won... *crosses fingers* Oh, and check out the chart on Amazon I took HAHA: www.twitpic.com/u99es
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Post by swindonforever on Dec 20, 2009 15:41:20 GMT
my favourite ever band and i really hope they do it i have rather alot of copies of killing in the name of on my computer
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Post by graham on Dec 20, 2009 19:15:17 GMT
Victory!
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Post by James the BLF on Dec 20, 2009 19:19:03 GMT
Awesome - now if only that victory show was in Scotland...
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Post by [Ghost] on Dec 20, 2009 19:47:33 GMT
Haha! Brilliant, exactly what this country needs is a bit of an uprising. Anyone who makes points about them being on the same label has missed the point, and anyone saying that Joe is a lovely chap (no matter how 'nice' he is he'll never be as influential as Rage) and deserves a number one, well he'll get it next week anyway. Next year I'd do it all over again, except they should pick a Christmas song this time .
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Post by mw on Dec 20, 2009 22:06:26 GMT
A victory for all real music fans everywhere - The first ever X Factor/Pop Idol not to get a number one single - and after all the "biggest X Factor ever" hype, too.
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Post by Craigo on Dec 20, 2009 23:55:25 GMT
This is brilliant - I do feel sorry for Joe (slightly), but I think it's just showed Simon Cowell how many people are fed up of him getting the Xmas No. 1 every year. But yeah - next year, as much as I love RATM, we should really make it a Christmas song
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Post by swindonforever on Dec 21, 2009 1:06:45 GMT
i look forward to seeing which song is xmas number 1 next year, i dont think it has to be an xmas one, id like journey next year
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Post by Ben on Dec 21, 2009 2:01:05 GMT
Louis Walsh has just made himself look like an even bigger arsehole than when he signed the twins... www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2779109/Rage-Against-The-Machine-beat-Joe-McElderry-in-race-for-Christmas-number-one.htmlLet's pick apart his argument, shall we? 1) Killing in the Name is a "novelty record"? Nah. Just... Nah. 2) "He will sell a million singles" Probably so. Not got the Christmas number 1 though has he? And that's what X Factor's all about, right? 3) "He only lost by a tiny 50,000 sales"... 50,000 sales is normally enough to get a top 10 single. 4) "It's all about having a career". RATM - 4 studio albums, all multi platinum, and a massive draw. They were the reason I went to Leeds fest last year. Previous X Factor winners include... Er... That guy who was a bit old. And, er... That kid that looked a bit young. Oh, and Leona Lewis and Alexandra Burke. But give it time. The only reason we remember Leona is because she got punched at a book signing 5) "Joe will sell more albums than Rage ever have" That may be true. But that's off the back of being shoved in our faces for the best part of 3 months on telly. And will be bought predominantly by idiots. 6) "Rage couldn't fill Wembley now." That sounds like a challenge. Free gig? Wembley? Piece of piss.
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Post by bigospedros on Dec 21, 2009 9:47:18 GMT
*yawn*
I'm so bored of all this now ...
Let's look of what has been achieved here ... we've replaced one orchestrated campaign to get a Christmas Number 1 (X Factor) with another orchestrated campaign (RATM) ... great! Well done everyone ... we've further devalued the charts and the once great Christmas Number one battle.
Yes, money has been raised for charity and that's great ... but that's it. This is not one in the eye for Cowell. If nothing else, he's got more sales as a result of this. Well done everyone.
Tell me, are you all gonna start buying an alternative for the next X-Factor generated single that's released or is your campaign against manufactured pop now over ?!
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Post by mw on Dec 21, 2009 9:55:16 GMT
*yawn* I'm so bored of all this now ... Let's look of what has been achieved here ... we've replaced one orchestrated campaign to get a Christmas Number 1 (X Factor) with another orchestrated campaign (RATM) ... great! Well done everyone ... we've further devalued the charts and the once great Christmas Number one battle. Yes, money has been raised for charity and that's great ... but that's it. This is not one in the eye for Cowell. If nothing else, he's got more sales as a result of this. Well done everyone. Tell me, are you all gonna start buying an alternative for the next X-Factor generated single that's released or is your campaign against manufactured pop now over ?! "It was about breaking the stranglehold these insipid X Factor ballads have had on the UK and this idea of a guaranteed No1 pop single as a prize on a TV show." Tom, says it all
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Post by bigospedros on Dec 21, 2009 10:02:02 GMT
if that was it then that should be the end of it ... no gigs, no extra album sales ... nothing.
However, for RATM, this is the equivalent a career boost as someone going on I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here.
They haven't released anything since 2003 or made any new music since 99 (as far as I know). If they were a current band then maybe I'd feel different.
Yes, they didn't ask for this campaign but if they were being so much against "the Man" and all that, they shoulda spurned it and not jumped on the bandwagon.
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Post by Chloe on Dec 21, 2009 10:24:40 GMT
*yawn* I'm so bored of all this now ... oh good, it's not just me then!
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Post by Ben on Dec 21, 2009 11:01:33 GMT
Rage split up in 02 then released Renegades... They got back together a couple of years ago because the demand was there to play live shows and Audioslave were going nowhere. The fact they've said they're putting on a free gig is a great thing IMHO. They could easily have said "Oh yeah, we'll put a gig on to celebrate but it'll be £30 a ticket". Any further album sales won't put a great deal in their pockets, the albums are old enough to pick up for a couple of quid online (I think the boxset of all 3 albums is a fiver on play)... Rage are still relevant, as proven by the number of tickets for Reading/Leeds that sold last year. That said though, anything like this will give them a shot in the arm. Look at the sales of Don't stop Believin' by Journey... That's in the Xmas top 10, because it was used in the X Factor. I bet they're having a tonne of album sales that they otherwise wouldn't do! You've got to admit though, at least this *was* a Christmas number 1 battle... Unlike the past few years which have been the X Factor winner steamrolling everything else in their path. Yes, it may have been through an orchestrated campaign, but that's the only way it's gonna happen these days. Unless someone like Muse cover the same song the X Factor people do next year and release it at Xmas for a laugh. That may be sad, but it's where we're at with the singles chart now. They made a mockery of it when they introduced the new download rules. Hoist by their own petard, I believe the phrase is. As with most things, Charlie Brooker sums it up quite nicely
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Post by Claire on Dec 21, 2009 13:03:02 GMT
Well, as someone who loathes a popularity contest, especially so that the hype at the end generates a Christmas number 1, I'm just glad it was won by someone else not the X-Factor who seem to think they have a right to hold the number 1 spot. It's all timed so that the release of the single coincides with Christmas and all the fans are of course going to buy it. I personally haven't downloaded the RATM track, nor am I going to. Where has the old fashioned Christmas single fight gone? It shouldn't be handed to someone on a plate.
What I do agree with is that the whole campaign has certainly boosted both Simon Cowells bank balance and helped kick start RATM's career again. I think there is better music out there more worthy of being Christmas number 1 but for now I'm just glad it didn't go to the X Factor.
He'll probably have the new year number 1 anyway.
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Post by [Ghost] on Dec 21, 2009 20:40:24 GMT
if that was it then that should be the end of it ... no gigs, no extra album sales ... nothing. No, thank you gig in the UK, yes please! They are a current band. Their songs and lyrics are more relevant today then ever, and they headlined Reading Festival just last year. And, they were the main draw, ahead of 'current' band The Killers. It's a brilliant thing. The Christmas number one always going to the X Factor winner was shit, the song was shit, and we changed that!
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Post by Ogalosh on Dec 21, 2009 21:24:03 GMT
Come on guys this was not about money or careers or any of that crap. I'm pretty sure the whole aim of this was to make a statement. A statement that public are tired of having big corporations trying to pound bulls**t into their heads everyday. It was more than just about the music industry, i think it reflects the current spirit of the times and the fact that everything around us is slowly turning into manufactured ,uninspired slime. And if this really was a 100% genuine grassroots movement ( im quite confident it was) then it was successful. Sure it was only a Christmas #1. A very small statement. But it was a statement. And that's what counts.
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Post by [Ghost] on Dec 21, 2009 22:52:37 GMT
Oh I agree completely, I just find it scandalous that Rage could be mentioned in the same sentence as I'm a celebrity!
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