Tommy
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Post by Tommy on Dec 11, 2011 21:58:51 GMT
You have a fair point.
Though I think that Grant felt they had to deviate to get noticed, which in some ways was successful.
But if I picked up the album not knowing who Feeder were, I definitely would not rush to buy they're next record.
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Post by gladas on Dec 11, 2011 23:03:27 GMT
Can't be bothered to quote but going to pick up on a few points mentioned...
Renegades was my least favourite Feeder album and I think that was partly down to poor production. The vocals, in particular, didn't sound very good at all. I know nobody likes over-produced vocals but I think the vocals on the album were very under-produced. I know they were trying to go for quite a raw sound but I didn't like it. I hope they change that for Generation Freakshow.
As for the title... I think it sounds very immature. People are slagging it off on Facebook because they don't like it and whilst that won't affect my enjoyment of it at all, I think it's a shame to have that blotch after a record of fantastic album names (Comfort In Sound springs to mind...).
Karl... met him after one of the London Renegades gigs first time around and he was a wonderful bloke. Funnily enough my favourite drumming from the EPs was on Time Goes By which I do believe was Damon, but we'll see... I have no trouble with Karl drumming for them in the long run - no he doesn't come across as particularly rock n' roll, but neither do Feeder...
I'm fairly certain that they haven't spent almost two years playing around with Renegades leftovers. If they have I'll be very disappointed.
For what I think may well end up being Feeder's last album (speculation/ can't see a huge financial incentive in it for them and sadly that quite often determines the world) - for a while at least - I am very excited about the new album and am hoping for something along the lines of Silent Cry.
Oh, and what's with the horrible green writing?!
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Post by Not Karl on Dec 12, 2011 2:26:54 GMT
Hi everybody!
Just want to say i am still a big fan of the band, but as much as i hate t say it, Renegades was a weak album, too short, too much filler not enough killer, and live werent as spectacular as the days when Dean Tidey was kickin about, and yeah i know the whole budget has to be tightened now but it was a real disappointment for me.
I am genuinely excited about the new album, but it feels Borders has been knocking around for too long now as it is, and isnt the most brilliant track in the world. Ill probably buy the album out of loyalty now, not exactly why you should buy music, but if its anything like the last album...ill be better off makin my own cd mix from the bsides which were soo much better than half of Renegades. Sadly I do agree with wikne that songs have kindve become predictable, with song structures, although lyric repitition has been discussed for many years now so not expecting anything radical there.
Nonetheless, looking forward to hearing the new stuff, just dont have the same buzz no more about it all, sad face
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Post by TheAlex Equivalent Battenberg on Dec 12, 2011 14:55:43 GMT
Sadly I do agree with wikne that songs have kindve become predictable, with song structures, But after being a fan of music for a number of years, couldn't you say that about a lot of music you hear? When you were younger and getting into music, everything was new and fresh. Songs can still be predictable with an exact formula, but if they're good songs they still work.
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Craigo
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Post by Craigo on Dec 12, 2011 15:18:05 GMT
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Post by [Ghost] on Dec 12, 2011 15:21:22 GMT
You have a fair point. Though I think that Grant felt they had to deviate to get noticed, which in some ways was successful. But if I picked up the album not knowing who Feeder were, I definitely would not rush to buy they're next record. I agree with this. After the commercial dissapointment of 'Silent Cry', Marks departure, and Echo folding, the whole Renegades tour was refreshing. New line up, new songs, old songs, tiny venues...all good. Trouble was at the time the new songs sounded unfinished. Yet they went on record the same, and as a result you get songs like 'Home' with the same lines over and over again. Just dull. I mean it's not a terrible album, but it was severely lacking in imagination. I got the point though- back to basics, after everything that happened, and I also think Grant wanted to get some credibility back from rock fans dismissing them as Coldplay-like. Fair enough. My biggest problem with Feeder at the moment though is the lack of a permanent drummer. They've never really been a band to mix up their setlists much, but now they are virtually identical every show, and I put that down to the dummer only knowing those particular songs. These days living in a remote place and having a young family means I only get to two or three gigs a year and potentially a festival, so bands need to offer more then the same old show tour after tour to get my money. Anyways back to the album, I'm looking forward to it and hoping for some more inspired songs then the Renegades lot. Maybe the lower expectations for this album might have helped the creative juices flow .
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Post by Ogalosh on Dec 12, 2011 19:26:22 GMT
I think renegades was an album of great songs let down by poor production. Im not talking about all the tracks. But listen to tracks like call out, DTTR, white lines & home for example. All great tracks that i really don't like the studio version of. Anyone feel the same?
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Post by peterbroughfeeder on Dec 12, 2011 20:03:34 GMT
I personally saw nothing wrong with the album. The production was done well and the songs did not sound the same on CD as they did live. If they did sound the same, then going to see them live would not have been as exciting and worth looking forward to as it has been.
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Post by Potroque on Dec 12, 2011 22:23:35 GMT
Well I liked Renegades, I was not expecting them to suddenly go loud and badass. So maybe the production was not so good, but all in all it seemed to be a very coherent album and the track list was well-considered. The songs relate to one another, which made up for the poorer lyrics in some songs (Home, The End, City In A Rut spring to mind)
The Renegades video was controversial, but it was something different; if it had been a standard video, people would go "What a standard video, that, they are so uninspired". Once again, for me it was a refreshing and unexpected path they chose. That video captured some of the anger that's in the record, and referred to Barking Dogs (talkin' 'bout coherence!). And it showed another side of Feeder...the Honeyfuzz side...
As for the new album, I have high expectations, which are scattered among my previous little comments. If the album is going to be somewhat mellow, we'll probably see some acoustic songs or songs without much production on the vocals (which is a thing that has always bothered me about Feeder albums, Grant's voice is also great without it). Anyway, what I was trying to say, is that they'll probably try to create a bit of an indie album. Remember that some of the songs are mellow leftovers from Renegades, an album in which Feeder went back to their roots. So we might see something like Elegy, Picture Of Perfect Youth or Don't Bring Me Down...
Can't wait to hear the new songs! Bring it on and let the good times roll!
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Post by MR B on Dec 13, 2011 8:24:03 GMT
Hopefully Daemon is better than Brazil. What is the position on the drummer? I never liked Karl. Karl is the drummer on the album , Damon is on the Jan /Feb tour dates.
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Post by gladas on Dec 13, 2011 10:17:19 GMT
What is the position on the drummer? I never liked Karl. Karl is the drummer on the album , Damon is on the Jan /Feb tour dates. This is one messed up love triangle!
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Post by mrmyers666 on Dec 29, 2011 13:55:38 GMT
Not sure if this has been brought up but theres 1.30min previews on itunes for the Border EP
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Post by starfish on Dec 29, 2011 21:15:42 GMT
The Japanese edition is now up for preorder on HMV.co.jp. No tracklisting as yet, but you can bet there will be bonus tracks (hopefully those pesky Borders vinyl and cassette b-sides!)
For those interested in such things, the catalogue number will be VICP65040, with a release date of 7th March, a full 19 days before it comes out in the UK!
As with most Japanese CDs, however, this thing is not inexpensive. But as a regular importer of CDs from over there (I just love J-Pop!), I spread the pesky import duty by buying en masse (the new Feeder album is part of a bulk buy with CDs by Perfume, Scandal and Bakufu Slump amongst others). Also, HMV Japan has a great loyalty scheme.
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Post by unfinisheddrawings on Dec 30, 2011 22:05:33 GMT
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Post by benmorrissey on Dec 31, 2011 1:22:38 GMT
I like the name. It's coming out on my birthday, so that'll be a great birthday present
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Post by bigospedros on Jan 11, 2012 13:32:54 GMT
Recordstore have let the cat out of the bag again!! Album Artwork : Album Tracklisting : 1 Oh My 2 Borders 3 Idaho 4 Hey Johnny 5 Quiet 6 Sunrise 7 Generation Freakshow 8 Tiny Minds 9 In All Honesty 10 Headstrong 11 Fools Can't Sleep 12 Children Of The Sun Blurb : The first 500 customers to order 'Generation Freakshow' at Recordstore.co.uk will have their copy signed by Feeder!* British rock institution Feeder return with ‘Generation Freakshow’ - their 8th studio album on March 26th. Classic Feeder with an updated twist, the album is twelve tracks of masterfully-crafted, fresh sounding strong songs, drawing from metal, grunge, punk and classic rock - absorbed and melded together as unmistakably Feeder. Every track is immediate, concise and never guilty of style over substance. Album opener ‘Oh My’ is a case in point for Grant Nicholas’ overdue recognition as a truly great songwriter: this big song blasts you with an arrangement that constantly elevates, twists and turns. An invigorating rock anthem dedicated to freedom and escape, the album’s first single ‘Borders’ is bolstered with Feeder’s trademark irrepressible choruses and huge tidal wave guitars. The hard-rocking ‘Idaho’ has an equally massive chorus, although the band are also comfortable flipping the script: as the title suggests ‘Quiet’, is a more introspective moment, which glides with restraint, teasingly suggesting a crescendo which never materializes. Equally versatile is ‘Headstrong’ - Feeder’s supercharged take on rock and roll, with its dissonant guitar riff and driving energy. Feeder’s last, heavily-praised album ‘Renegades’ saw the band reinvigorated by recording and releasing on their own imprint - Big Teeth Music, free from the constraints of a major label. This refreshing set of working conditions resulted in a return to their earlier, more raw and heavy days. Back to the present and ‘Generation Freakshow’ is an amalgamation of the best bits of Feeders’ various aural incarnations over the years, which sees the band at a vital, energised and passionate new peak. *Signed copies are strictly limited and will be sent out on a first come, first served basis. One signed copy per household. Once all signed copies have been sold the offer will be taken down and replaced with an unsigned version of the album. Signed copies are allocated upon the order processing, not when the order is placed. Link to Pre-Order
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Post by nootje on Jan 11, 2012 13:38:03 GMT
Just saw it on as wellWell, time to order then!
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Post by Telepathic, social addicts on Jan 11, 2012 13:45:30 GMT
Quality just ordered mine, can’t complain £10.24 Signed! Not bad at all! I like the Record store right up, hopefully it’s accurate.
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Post by Ogalosh on Jan 11, 2012 13:46:52 GMT
Sweet! I like the album name a bit more now ive seen the artwork for some reason (although im still not liking the green). Was expecting a few more album tracks but i suppose we will be getting alot more b sides.
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Post by Telepathic, social addicts on Jan 11, 2012 13:48:03 GMT
I was hoping for a release on Vinyl, Dose anyone know if there are any plans?
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