Tim Smith
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Post by Tim Smith on Mar 8, 2012 14:36:46 GMT
I'm not sure what to tell you, I don't like the Renegades album. I love guitar music, doesn't mean I like Cradle of Filth.
Re your dubstep comment, what KoRn has just done with their latest album is just that, and it sounds amazing.
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Post by Potroque on Mar 8, 2012 14:40:34 GMT
I like Renegades...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 15:42:57 GMT
In the past couple of years i've listened to Renegades far more than Polythene and YWTS combined.
I think it's a genuinely good album, with Sentimental, Renegades, The End being some of my favourite Feeder songs
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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Mar 8, 2012 16:07:31 GMT
Renegades as a whole might be a slightly boring album if you're not in the right mood to listen to grungy melodic rock, but it does the job very well when you feel like rocking out.
It is surely my least fave Feeder album as a whole, but this is quite far from saying that I don't like it, I like it more than a very good album from another one of my fave bands!
On the plus side, just to quote Chris, the Renegades album is the one I've been listening to more than every other Feeder album combined (not only YWTS and Polythene!) and has songs which are amongst my favourites: Barking dogs, CIAR, Home... not to mention the amazing b-sides (Fallen and Sending out waves) and the songs from the Renegades EPs which were not on the album, particularly In times of crisis which might well be around my top 10.
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Post by peterbroughfeeder on Mar 8, 2012 16:31:20 GMT
I like Cradle of Filth anyway, but cannot stand guitar bands like My Chemical Romance.
Koran on the other hand went downhill from the "Issues" album.
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Post by 20th Century Renegade on Mar 8, 2012 16:40:23 GMT
it's not as if they've made a dubstep album, is it?! now that would be, erm, interesting but i do agree with people saying that renegades is Feeder's worst album, but by no means is it a bad album, the song Renegades is one of my favourite Feeder songs none of their albums have ever come close, or will ever come close to their best, Echo Park
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on Mar 8, 2012 16:43:44 GMT
Also to describe an album so much by a band you like in that manner is just insane. You might love the band, but you don't have to worship everything they do; Feeder have had some awful songs in the past.
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Post by 20th Century Renegade on Mar 8, 2012 16:45:38 GMT
Also to describe an album so much by a band you like in that manner is just insane. You might love the band, but you don't have to worship everything they do; Feeder have had some awful songs in the past. really? i cant think of any off hand
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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Mar 8, 2012 17:30:39 GMT
Feeder have had some awful songs in the past. Absolutely. Call out for me
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Post by peterbroughfeeder on Mar 8, 2012 18:07:34 GMT
Also to describe an album so much by a band you like in that manner is just insane. You might love the band, but you don't have to worship everything they do; Feeder have had some awful songs in the past. Whatever, you obviously don't like "Renegades" then. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't like and never will like "Tumble and Fall". Dreadful dirge that should have never been on the album, should have swapped track numbers round with "Shatter".
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Post by Stu on Mar 8, 2012 18:30:52 GMT
Anyone who likes Renegades as an album is lying to themselves, there I said it. What an odd thing to say ?! How can a fan of guitar based music totally dismiss this album, let alone a fan of Feeder itself ? I mean, it's not as if they've made a dubstep album, is it?! Seemed like just a colourful way of saying he doesn't like Renegades. Brought a smile to my face at least
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Post by Tommy on Mar 8, 2012 18:47:20 GMT
Whatever, you obviously don't like "Renegades" then. I like Renegades, but it's their worst album. LFR and Renegades are both amazing songs, but I didn't particularly like the flow of the album. ...and This Town is awful.
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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Mar 8, 2012 19:28:40 GMT
Sounds like my appreciation of the Renegades album is pretty much different to everybody else's one I have to say I absolutely LOVE This town. The dislike for that song seems pretty widespread among the italian fanbase as well. Of course it's not my favourite Feeder song, but I like it nonetheless. On the other hand, I've never been a great fan of the title track like you guys, I find it kind of dull in some way.
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Post by bigospedros on Mar 8, 2012 21:31:12 GMT
I'm not sure what to tell you, I don't like the Renegades album. I love guitar music, doesn't mean I like Cradle of Filth. That's not quite what I meant ... no issue if you don't like the album. Is there not even 1 song you like on it ? KoRn have always had an element of crossover in their music though. Their new stuff is quite a change, from what I've heard, but it still has elements of what they've always done. Back on the subject of the Renegades album ... to me, it's like the album "Hot Space" by Queen. NOT musically, because it's not even close, but for both bands it's an album that is very much different overall to the rest of the catalogue, even though, as I said, there are songs on both that could fit onto other albums in the catalogue. As with all albums, I guess you just have to be in the right mood to listen to it.
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Post by [Ghost] on Mar 9, 2012 9:57:14 GMT
Opinion nazi alert!
Renegades is their worst album tehcnically, both musically and lyrically. That doesn't mean some people might enjoy the simplicity, and like it more then another of their albums.
Seriously? Bad Hair Day, Oxidise, This Town, Bring It Home, Redemption, Bring It Together, Heads Held High, Pain On Pain, Choke...I could go on. Doesn't mean they are any less of a band, the good to bad songs ratio is massively in their favour!
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Post by N-Audioslave on Mar 9, 2012 12:36:44 GMT
Seriously? Bad Hair Day, Oxidise, This Town, Bring It Home, Redemption, Bring It Together, Heads Held High, Pain On Pain, Choke...I could go on. Doesn't mean they are any less of a band, the good to bad songs ratio is massively in their favour! It's a matter of opinion/music taste, and of course opinions are not the objective truth. For example, you hate Choke, I love it. Doesn't mean anyone is wrong, we're bot "right" in a way...
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Post by Potroque on Mar 9, 2012 13:17:47 GMT
Hmm I basically love every song they've done..one more than the other... but I like all of them.
'cept for Somewhere to call your own...
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Post by bigospedros on Mar 9, 2012 13:49:32 GMT
As a result of this thread, I'm now giving the Renegades album another few listens as I work this afternoon. I doubt I'll change any opinions, but it's good to listens to albums as they were intended, once in a while. Ipods on shuffle is a modern scourge for carefully crafted albums ...
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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Mar 9, 2012 15:18:02 GMT
Ipods on shuffle is a modern scourge for carefully crafted albums ... You wouldn't put "The dark side of the moon" by Pink Floyd on shuffle. That is a crime Don't know if you see what I mean, that album flows so superbly that you can't get it until you listen to it carefully. Of course Feeder albums are not meant to sound the same way, TDSOTM was a rock opera and a concept album basically, which is not what YWTS or Echo Park or PTS or whatever are about. However, the effect you get from listening to an album as a whole is a completely different thing to listening it on shuffle, and this is always true even with albums that have songs completely disconnected from one another, both musically and lyrically (which anyway is not quite the case with "Renegades")
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Post by 20th Century Renegade on Mar 9, 2012 16:38:55 GMT
Ipods on shuffle is a modern scourge for carefully crafted albums ... You wouldn't put "The dark side of the moon" by Pink Floyd on shuffle. That is a crime Don't know if you see what I mean, that album flows so superbly that you can't get it until you listen to it carefully. Of course Feeder albums are not meant to sound the same way, TDSOTM was a rock opera and a concept album basically, which is not what YWTS or Echo Park or PTS or whatever are about. However, the effect you get from listening to an album as a whole is a completely different thing to listening it on shuffle, and this is always true even with albums that have songs completely disconnected from one another, both musically and lyrically (which anyway is not quite the case with "Renegades") i agree with everything you said there, i dont listen to any albums on shuffle, i find it kind of pointless
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