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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Aug 31, 2010 14:45:34 GMT
I'm reading a book about the Monster of Florence. It's so interesting. Does someone of you know the story? He was a serial killer who operated from 1974 to 1985 and killed 14 people (7 couples making love by night in isolated places) near Florence, quite close to the place where I live. One of the places where he killed a couple is less than 20 miles away from my home. What makes this serial killer somehow extraordinary is that he had a perfect ability to move by night in complete darkness in woods and without being noticed, he killed the couple with a 22 caliber gun, and after killing them, he completely removed the woman's pubic area and in 2 cases her left breast. The removed parts have never been found. I think this story is pretty popular also outside Italy.
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Post by Potroque on Aug 31, 2010 14:59:20 GMT
So, how did they find/stop him? With a lure? Imagine that! I'm reading "De Avonden" (The evenings) by one Gerard Reve. Hey, it's not my call! I have to read it for school and it is annoying! Approximate quote from the book: "Did you get some coal from the attic?" asked Mom. "No I didn't get coal from the attic." said Frits. "Why didn't you get some coal from the attic?" asked Dad. "Because I didn't want to get some coal from the attic" said Frits. "You could've gone to the attic and get some coal" said Mom. It goes on and on with worthless dialogues like this. Bah. At page 20, but I hope it gets more exciting
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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Aug 31, 2010 15:06:27 GMT
So, how did they find/stop him? With a lure? Imagine that! They didn't stop him! He has never been caught or condamned. The police has had many suspects andhas condamned 3 people, but they were not the actual murderers, that's for sure. It's just that people wanted a guilty and the trials made against those 3 guys (3 old farmers! How could 3 70 years old farmers be such cold blooded and fast assassins?) were not based on any evidence! People were scared and the police condamned these farmers just because they were known to be perverts, which didn't anyway show they were assassins, so that people were happy and not scared anymore. The italian police asked for some help to the FBI in order to make them work out a sort of "profile" of this killer. The FBI said it was a solitary man, he killed on his own, lived with an older woman who knew his secret (probably his mum or an aunt), and was unable to make love and beyond any suspect. And, first of all, aged 35 AT MOST! So completely different to those farmers, which were known to spend their time with prostitutes, had sons and daughters, lived with their wife and were old. The real killer is probably still alive and laughing out loud with those human parts still in his fridge my mum almost remained victim of him, she told me that she was making love with my father one night near Florence, heard someone moving and loading a gun between the trees, my father turned on the car and they managed to get away. The person didn't even shoot, he was still umprepared to that stage when my father turned on the car engine. Anyway, this is what my mother said, I don't think this really happened. Well, at least I don't think they actually heard that, they only thought they did. At the time everyone was scared to death and kept well far from woods (in fact I can't see why they did that!) and that killer was smart, young and fast (one of his victims was an athlete which tried to get away, but the killer reached him so this showed he was very agile) and "silent". All the victims reacted only when the guy shoot towards the car, this means no one could have heard someone moving or loading a gun. If it had been him, my parents would be dead. aaaanyway mate you have a private message, didn't you see it yet?!!
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Post by Potroque on Aug 31, 2010 15:21:39 GMT
So, how did they find/stop him? With a lure? Imagine that! They didn't stop him! He has never been caught or condamned. The police has had many suspects andhas condamned 3 people, but they were not the actual murderers, that's for sure. It's just that people wanted a guilty and the trials made against those 3 guys (3 old farmers! How could 3 70 years old farmers be such cold blooded and fast assassins?) were not based on any evidence! People were scared and the police condamned these farmers just because they were known to be perverts, which didn't anyway show they were assassins, so that people were happy and not scared anymore. The italian police asked help to the FBI in order to make them work out a sort of "profile" of this killer. The FBI said it was a solitary man, he killed on his own, lived with an older woman who knew his secret, and was unable to make love and beyond any suspect. And, first of all, aged 35 AT MOST! So completely different to those farmers, which were known to pass their time with prostitutes and were old. The real killer is probably still alive and laughing out loud with those human parts still in his fridge my mum almost remained victim of him, she told me that she was making love with my father one night near Florence, heard someone moving and loading a gun between the trees, my father turned on the car and they managed to get away. The person didn't even shoot, he was still umprepared to that stage when my father turned on the car engine. Anyway, this is what my mother said, I don't think this really happened. Well, at least I don't think they actually heard that, they only thought they did. At the time everyone was scared to death and kept well far from woods (in fact I can't see why they did that!) and that killer was smart, young and fast (one of his victims was an athlete which tried to get away, but the killer reached him so this showed he was very agile) and "silent". All the victims reacted only when the guy shoot towards the car, this means no one could have heard someone moving or loading a gun. If it had been him, my parents would be dead. aaaanyway mate you have a private message, didn't you see it yet?!! Very interesting story that one! If the man is still alive, he'd be about 60 years now, if his profile was true. If I were you, I'd watch out for guys with this age! After 25 years, he might be missing his old life... I've seen your message! Cheers! Sent you one back in return
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Post by Sonorous (ex-feedermadness) on Aug 31, 2010 15:47:45 GMT
Thanks mate! Yeah, the FBI profile also said that serial killers like him could well have long periods of tranquillity, even lasting more than 20 years, and these periods often come when there's the older woman I mentioned before living with him. There's a man in Italy who is suspected to be the real monster of Florence, he lives in Florence and has lived there in the periods in which the monster killed. I'm more precise: the monster killed: once in 1974, twice in 1981, once in 1982, once in 1983, once in 1984, once in 1985. There's also another homicide of a couple happened in 1968 of which the monster is suspected. The gun shooting in 1968 is surely the same that has shot the other times, but no one has still showed that the assassin is the same. Surely, if there are two assassins, they surely know or knew each other at the time. Now, back to this man: this man has lived away from Florence from 1969 to 1974, and from 1975 to 1980. Everytime he came back to Florence, the homicides began again! Then he has lived since 1985 with an older woman (explaining why this long pause). The only element that favours him is that he was only 10 years old in 1968, and 16 years old in 1974. Anyway, this a far too complicated story, 40 years of investigations haven't been enough to find him, and literally hundreds of people have played some roles in this story. There is someone who even thinks the guy was a policeman, because as you would imagine it is impossible to move in woods in complete darkness with no instruments to make the person see something. If he had used a simple torch, its light would have been noticed by the unlucky couple. Those "instruments" he needed not to be noticed at the time were only given to policemen and they could let him see by night without being seen. Then, in many homicides the documents of the killed people have been found abandoned on the front seats of the cars and trepassed by bullets, which shows the victims held their documents in their hands when they got shot. Why should couples making love in a wood be holding their documents in their hands while doing it? Quite probably, the man pretended to be a policeman or was a real policeman, arrived next to the car, asked the victims to show him their douments, and while they were extracting them from their pockets, he took advantage of their distraction and shot them. Anyway, these are just conjectures. We'll probably never know the truth. Better to keep far from woods by night guys, particularly where I live
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Post by Chloe on Sept 2, 2010 17:27:44 GMT
Now just starting the Millennium Trilogy by Stieg Larsson. First up, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Loved it! Now on The Girl Who Played With Fire. i'm about 120 pages into dragon tattoo and still struggling to get into it... i've got 4 other books in my locker at my main work site; have a feeling this is gonna get stuck to bottom of pile again if it doesn't get going soon.
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Post by nancepants on Sept 2, 2010 18:44:20 GMT
keep going, it gets easier and better! i don't remember struggling with the first quarter of the book, but everyone i talk to about it now says how dense and boring those first chapters are. it will be worth it!
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Post by Stacey on Sept 2, 2010 22:54:56 GMT
I found it fine but i can understand why some people struggle. It is worth it though. Loving the second book so far.
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Post by Chloe on Sept 3, 2010 11:18:16 GMT
well i'll bring it for the train and stuck with it a bit longer then.
also reading a dorothy koomson
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Post by Chloe on Nov 10, 2010 14:28:32 GMT
Madam Bovary by Flaubert.
bit of a struggle to be honest.
am also dipping into "History of England through the monarchy" by David Starkey - that's very good.
and just finished the new Jeffery Deaver ' Edge' - also very good, though not quite as good as some of the Lincoln Rhyme series
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Post by Craigo on Nov 10, 2010 18:29:09 GMT
Finished A Brief History of Time. My head hurts.
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Post by Potroque on Apr 11, 2011 10:09:05 GMT
Finished reading for school, so I am a free man and all. Now I'm reading novels from Brian Jacques about Redwall. Brings back some good memories
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Post by Chloe on Apr 26, 2011 20:49:44 GMT
currently reading a biog of king edward iii, 'going postal' by terry pratchett, and dipping into 'wonders of the solar system' by brian cox
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Post by jellybean on May 9, 2011 15:49:36 GMT
just read bible camp blood bath by joey comeau and pandemonium by chris brookmyre. re-reading another old brookmyre to unwind after 2nd year english literature melted my brain.
on the plus side though, uni made me re-read both dorian grey and jekyll and hyde, two books which i love. i finally read great expectations too, and loved that.
only other thing of note that wasn't on a uni reading list somewhere was maxine hong-kingston's the woman warrior. fantastic book about being a 2nd generation migrant and a 1st generation chinese-american.
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Post by jellybean on Apr 27, 2012 12:30:14 GMT
i noticed i had the last post and just clicked to see what i was reading....
a year later and the woman warrior is sat next to me, being thoroughly picked apart and referenced for my dissertation on alienation in travel writing!
my current reading: Between The Woods and the Water - Patrick Leigh Fermor Very detailed book about Fermor walking through Hungary to Romania; only really reading the first 88 pages or so for the moment as i'm using a lot of his vivid descriptions of magyar and hungary for my dissertation
The Tao of Travel - Paul Theroux lots of litle bits and pieces from various different travel writers, as well as Theroux himself. Proving invaluable to beef up my bibliography!
Tales from Nowhere - Don George (Lonely Planet) essays and shorts from lots of different writers. Amazing so far!
Travel Writing, The Self and the World - Casey Blanton
The Songlines - Bruce Chatwin mainly for references to the structure of my own work, haven't gotten around to reading it properly yet.
Abroad - Paul Fussel for some critical theory on travel writing!
Batting on the Bosphorus - Angus Bell a man hitchhiking across Europe and playing Cricket. Amazing!
Loneliness & Time - Mark Cocker more critical theory on travel writing
.... can you see the theme?
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